| Paul: |
welcome everyone... |
| lumberman: |
What's up Paul. |
| lumberman: |
I loved watching the
Lakers get beat |
| Paul: |
yep made my night |
| lumberman: |
If Billups can keep
playing like that, they have a chance. |
| Paul: |
I wouldn't be even a little surprised to see the Lakers lose the series |
| lumberman: |
I expect the Lakers to win
Game 2,then lose 2 of 3 in Detroit...so it will be 3-2 Pistons coming
back to L.A. |
| Paul: |
that sounds about
right...although if Detroit takes tomorrow's game, the Lakers could be
in a lot of trouble |
| lumberman: |
agreed |
| Paul: |
how are you doing tonight
Brian? |
| Hagerman: |
I enjoyed the Pistons
victory but the Lakers should win in six, maybe seven games |
| Paul: |
blah |
| lumberman: |
still doubters out
there...lol |
| Hagerman: |
Pretty good, looking for
Boozer to have a nice jam on someone in the Olympics! |
| Paul: |
I think he could look good
playing for the US |
| Hagerman: |
James already has the notoriety, but with Boozer now on the spotlight, the Cavs might get a
bit extra with Boozer. |
| richiboi |
i doubt that rumor is
true...they would probably invite guys like Elton brand and Lamar Odom first |
| Hagerman: |
Brand had surgery recently |
| Paul: |
Until I read it tonight, I
hadn't heard anything about Booz being invited...but yeah Brand won't be
going |
| richiboi |
o ya I forgot bout that my
bad |
| lumberman: |
What's up MYoung |
| Hagerman: |
hey, MYoung |
| Paul: |
glad that you could get
here MYoung |
| MYoung: |
I guess i finally got into
the right room |
| MYoung: |
what's up fellas |
| Paul: |
we were just talking about
Boozer and the Olympics (Iknow you are excited) |
| MYoung: |
Its good for him |
| MYoung: |
Team USA? thats another
story |
| Paul: |
come on your saying Booz
can't hold his own on the world stage? |
| MYoung: |
If he plays a lot maybe |
| Hagerman: |
Maybe this world stage
will help him become better suited on teh d-end |
| MYoung: |
He should learn something
from Larry Brown |
| lumberman: |
How not to win a
championship? lol |
| Hagerman: |
lol |
| lumberman: |
As long as nobody gets
hurt |
| Paul: |
that is issue one l-man |
| lumberman: |
It could happen anytime, but if something pops in their
knee, it will be debated forever
whether or not they should have been sent |
| MYoung: |
Detroit might just win if
it remains 2 on 5 |
| Hagerman: |
Malone and Payton will
pick it up in game 2 |
| lumberman: |
I was just telling Paul:, if Billups keeps it
up, they have a shot. |
| MYoung: |
The key to Detroit is to
take out their guards |
| lumberman: |
I think Jackson is making
a mistake having Kobe chase around Hamilton |
| MYoung: |
I dont think so |
| Hagerman: |
If they keep the score
tight and play as good of D that they have so far, Shaq won't be much a
factor late in the game |
| Hagerman: |
he won't be able to hit
free-throws to stay in the game |
| MYoung: |
Bryant can handle it. |
| MYoung: |
Its about the Lakers
effort and focus and the role players |
| Paul: |
Kobe isn't that bad of a
defender |
| lumberman: |
But look at his FG%,it's
going to effect him late offensively |
| Paul: |
that I would agree w/ but
w/ Detroit's defense it's going to happen anyway |
| MYoung: |
Someone else is going to
actually have to make a shot on the Lakers |
| lumberman: |
I think he should be
guarding Billups |
| lumberman: |
What did they get from
their bench? Wasn't it something like 4 points?? |
| Hagerman: |
I would put Payton on
Hamilton (giving a few inches) and Bryant on Billups |
| Paul: |
I think Hamilton would
have a field day on Payton |
| MYoung: |
Payton isn't going to chase
Hamilton around screens for 40 minutes |
| lumberman: |
He'd fall over...maybe
George |
| Hagerman: |
No, but when he is in the
game, he is a good and experienced defender to make him work hard for
his shot. |
| MYoung: |
The Lakers have to contain
dribble penetration and do a better job on the pick and rolls |
| Hagerman: |
Bryant could work him when
Payton's on the bench |
| lumberman: |
If you pass the ball, you'll break down the Lakers...most teams just don't have the
patience |
| MYoung: |
true lumber |
| MYoung: |
Detroit killed LA with the
extra pass |
| Paul: |
anyone have any questions
for these 2 shoot...it's small enough in here to go ahead and get going |
| lumberman: |
Did you see Ben Wallace
shoot that air ball from 10 feet when he was wide-open? |
| MYoung: |
It was Diop-esque |
| Paul: |
Wallace shouldn't be 10
feet from the basket |
| lumberman: |
lol exactly |
| MYoung: |
he has to take them though |
| MYoung: |
He made one late in the
game |
| lumberman: |
I agree, when he's
wide-open like that |
| lumberman: |
Pistons are a very
confident club right now...Lakers are creating a monster to deal with |
| MYoung: |
Paul:, have you heard
anything on the trade front? |
| Paul: |
not really, it's pretty
much draft stuff |
| MYoung: |
is it true that they are
shying away from Gordon and toward Harris? |
| Hagerman: |
Harris to me is a better
fit for the Cavs, don't you think? |
| Paul: |
I think it's not so much
shying away as it is they always liked Harris better |
| MYoung: |
Yeah, Harris looks to be
the best fit |
| Paul: |
I like Gordon better but
Harris is a better fit |
| MYoung: |
Once he starts working out
Harris may not fall |
| Paul: |
I still wouldn't be
surprised to see Telfair |
| Paul: |
blah |
| MYoung: |
oh lord lol |
| Paul: |
I just hope they get an
extra pick late to get him |
| Hagerman: |
I hope Telfair gets picked
(I know he won't) before the Cavs so they don't have the option to take
him. |
| Hagerman: |
Yeah, I wouldn't mind
taking him if we had an extra pick later on. |
| Paul: |
Telfair's workouts were so
bad w/ other teams that if his workout was that bad w/ the Cavs not even
his friendship w/ James would save him |
| lumberman: |
I've gotten some draft
news from my contact in Portland last night, concerning Charlotte at #4 |
| MYoung: |
What's the word lumber? |
| lumberman: |
He's convinced Charlotte
will take Josh Childress at #4.He's been in for two workouts, and they
love this guy. |
| MYoung: |
yeah, that seems to be the
speculation |
| Paul: |
I had heard that he would
go that high |
| MYoung: |
Deng isn't a lock for 3
anymore either |
| Paul: |
no way he makes it to us |
| lumberman: |
Also, Iguodala is being
looked at by Toronto at #8 |
| MYoung: |
Really? |
| Hagerman: |
I don't know if I want
Deng anyway. He has talent but I don't know what it is, but I think
other guys will end up being better |
| MYoung: |
Iguodala may go 3 |
| Hagerman: |
Iguodala would be an ideal
fit here I believe. |
| lumberman: |
Apparently the Raptors had
Podkolzine in last Wed. and weren't blown away, although they liked him |
| MYoung: |
Nobody thinks Deng will be
great. He's attractive because they know he will at least be good |
| lumberman: |
He's a safe pick |
| MYoung: |
right |
| lumberman: |
Elton Brand grade |
| Hagerman: |
I heard from a friend in
Virginia that seen Pavel, and they say his footwork is slow. |
| MYoung: |
I dont think he is as good
as Brand |
| MYoung: |
The consistent thing I
have read about Podkolzine is that his reaction time is slow |
| lumberman: |
Are you hearing what I'm
hearing about Andriuskevicius? |
| MYoung: |
I just heard he is out of
the draft |
| lumberman: |
I'm hearing conflicting
reports.. |
| ERockRIP: |
What's up fellas. .
Just managed a few minutes. |
| Paul: |
how are you doing |
| lumberman: |
Hey ERock |
| ERockRIP: |
Doing well. Somebody spill
some news please. |
| MYoung: |
Cavs are taking Peter
Ramos Erock |
| MYoung: |
lol just kidding |
| lumberman: |
The Cavs are taking MYoung
at #10...he's really a 7'2"" Russian center prospect |
| jpopp: |
So what's the tragedy of
drafting Josh Smith at 10 if the players the Cavaliers seem to covet are
gone at #10? |
| Paul: |
I think Josh Smith would
be a solid pick at 10 if the others are gone |
| lumberman: |
Josh Smith won't get by
Atlanta at #6 |
| ERockRIP: |
The tragedy to me is that
he might be another Gerald Wallace or Deshawn Stevenson |
| MYoung: |
Well, there are questions
about Josh Smith's work ethic, shot and feel for the game |
| Paul: |
I think that there are too
many other guys the Cavs like for Smith to be at the top of the list at
10 |
| jpopp: |
I think Paxson wouldn't
have the guts to select him then trade out. |
| MYoung: |
I never thought he would
take Diop |
| Paul: |
I think he would, but they
are looking about probably 5 guys that would be good fits and at least
one will be there |
| jpopp: |
Yeah definitely not, if
Andriuskevicius withdraws and Podkolzine doesn't go, the group they are
looking at will likely be gone. |
| lumberman: |
I think selections 1-3 are set. The
real intrigue is picks 4-9...what happens will determine the
fate of the Cavs |
| MYoung: |
If Smith is as athletic as
they say he is he could play a role similar to Miles his rookie year |
| MYoung: |
Also, you have what the
Clippers will do |
| Paul: |
so does that mean we could
then trade him for another Jeff McInnis |
| jpopp: |
Never mind, you just
cursed the guy forever. |
| MYoung: |
dang, I didn't mean to do
that |
| lumberman: |
I'm hearing
Andriuskevicius is back in again. anybody know definitely what's going
on with him? Phoenix wanted to guarantee him at #7 |
| Paul: |
the Clippers will probably
take Telfair |
| MYoung: |
He wants to go top 5 and
stay overseas a year |
| lumberman: |
I heard that's what he
wanted,but the Suns are trying to change his mind |
| jpopp: |
I think that is the right
call for him, just need someone to sink the choice in him. |
| ERockRIP: |
So let's go back to the
worst case scenario for a minute. Would you guys take Podkolzine or
Andriuskevicius? I wouldn't have a problem with that. |
| Hagerman: |
Not Pavel |
| lumberman: |
I'd take either over
Nelson or Telfair |
| MYoung: |
Im not sure Podkolzine is
really a better prospect than Ramos |
| jpopp: |
No the newly acquired
curse of Josh Smith. |
| Paul: |
I would like either of
those 2 guys, especially over Nelson and Telfair |
| jpopp: |
I see the worst case
scenario for the Cavaliers as Smith. |
| ERockRIP: |
Do you think it's safe to
say that the Cavs probably won't take a high school swingman? |
| MYoung: |
If all the swingmen and
PGs are gone before 10 the Cavaliers are screwed |
| MYoung: |
It makes free agency and
trades that much more paramount |
| Hagerman: |
As mentioned above, I
don't believe many people thought they'd take DIop, but you never know |
| Paul: |
yep, I don't see that
happening though MYoung |
| jpopp: |
Are you counting Josh
Smith in there MY? |
| MYoung: |
no, I'm not |
| jpopp: |
Then you take Smith and
shop him. |
| MYoung: |
Maybe I'm gun shy about
getting another uber-athlete that lacks skills and doesn't work hard |
| Paul: |
I just don't see the Cavs
picking up Smith... |
| Hagerman: |
JR Smith to me wasn't a
lottery pick when he came out........... |
| lumberman: |
Not another CA HS big man, MYoung? |
| lumberman: |
I've also been told that
JR Smith is dropping like a ton of bricks...while Iguodala, Peja
Samardziski, and Robert Swift, are climbing up the charts quickly. |
| Paul: |
no to Swift |
| Paul: |
actually no to all 3 of
them L-man |
| jpopp: |
Someone will think the
world of him. |
| MYoung: |
A lot of people like Swift |
| lumberman: |
I'm not suggesting the
Cavaliers take any of them, just reporting what I'm hearing. |
| Paul: |
those people can pick him |
| MYoung: |
He should have gone to
college but he gets stereotyped |
| Paul: |
Swift wouldn't be a good
fit for the Cavs IMHO |
| ERockRIP: |
I like what I read about
Swift. Who's to say he won't be better than any of the other C
prospects? You need a damn good GM to figure it out. |
| MYoung: |
We've haven't mentioned
Biedrins or Monya yet |
| lumberman: |
I think there is at least
a 50/50 chance Biedrins drops to the Cavaliers at #10...and that would
be a nice surprise for them. |
| Paul: |
Now Monya I like |
| Hagerman: |
I do like Monya but I'm
not sure at 10 |
| jpopp: |
biedrins is an easy pick
for the Cavaliers at #10. |
| Paul: |
depending on how the chips
fall we may have to take a prospect w/ the most potential |
| lumberman: |
Agreed |
| MYoung: |
I'm
having a hard time
really figuring out where Biedrins could go |
| Hagerman: |
Yes, that is a good
question |
| lumberman: |
As high as #5 to Washington, as
low as #10 to Cleveland |
| jpopp: |
5-10. |
| MYoung: |
Most say Washington but if
he is a PF then they still have Brown |
| lumberman: |
I think the Wizards will take Gordon |
| MYoung: |
Phoenix would take him and
just play him at center in tandem with Lampe |
| Paul: |
Phoenix would make sense
also |
| MYoung: |
I would hope Ernie Grunfeld is smarter than that |
| jpopp: |
The only player I see
rated in the top 10 that slides past the Cavaliers is Smith. |
| lumberman: |
I'm hoping Phoenix works
something out with Andriuskevicius |
| MYoung: |
Why would Washington take
Gordon? |
| Hagerman: |
I have an acquaintance in
Seattle, and I haven't heard anything concrete right now, but they could
go a couple of ways. |
| Hagerman: |
They work in the Seattle
FO |
| MYoung: |
Phoenix going with
Andriuskevicius would really help Cleveland |
| lumberman: |
Personally, I don't know
MYoung. But their chartroom says they're hearing Gordon, and NBAdraft.net
has them taking Gordon also. |
| jpopp: |
Livingston perhaps to the
Wizards, but no way Gordon. |
| MYoung: |
I've heard that Seattle's
front office is really under the gun to make the playoffs |
| MYoung: |
Didn't Washington pay
Arenas 60plusM to be Ben Gordon? |
| Hagerman: |
To a point yeah, but
they've got some maneuvering to do |
| Hagerman: |
They've got some bad
contracts |
| lumberman: |
Somebody is going to be
traded though, they're top heavy in the backcourt |
| MYoung: |
and don't they still have
Stackhouse and Larry Hughes at SG? |
| lumberman: |
Hughes will
stick,Stackhouse is gone |
| MYoung: |
Nobody wants Stackhouse
now but they could trade Hughes |
| Hagerman: |
Yep and they signed the
PG.....ahh....from GS to a long term deal |
| Hagerman: |
Atlanta has so many holes,
they could also be a surprise and go various ways |
| MYoung: |
I wouldn't be surprised if
Washington traded out |
| lumberman: |
Forget who the Cavaliers will draft...who do you want them to
draft, personally? |
| Hagerman: |
Wash. also has Jarvis
Hayes |
| MYoung: |
The logical thing would be
for Atlanta and the Clippers to deal |
| MYoung: |
Devin Harris |
| lumberman: |
Bring Howard back home |
| jpopp: |
I am all about Harris. |
| Hagerman: |
That would be logical, but
when have we seen a logical draft? |
| Paul: |
I still haven't made up my
mind but Harris is definately an easy choice |
| MYoung: |
when have we seen logical
Clippers? |
| lumberman: |
I think the dark horse in
this draft is Iguodala |
| Hagerman: |
I would like to have
Harris also |
| MYoung: |
They have the 8th pick in
the draft sitting behind their franchise player and wont trade him |
| jpopp: |
Never trust a player that
climbs the draft board that fast after a few workouts. |
| ERockRIP: |
You know what I like about
Harris? He was effective in that slow down tempo that the Badgers run.
But he can play up tempo too. He's nice. |
| MYoung: |
true but there are
exceptions like McDyess |
| lumberman: |
I like Harris also |
| Hagerman: |
MCDyess would be a nice
backup here, for a cheap price of course |
| lumberman: |
I like Harris,Biedrins,and
Monya |
| Paul: |
just about in that order
too |
| lumberman: |
I agree |
| ERockRIP: |
How about Chris Anderson
of the Nuggets as a cheap backup PF? He's a high energy shot blocker. |
| lumberman: |
Maybe Biedrins ahead of
Harris |
| MYoung: |
Regardless of the pick
they should look to move Diop for a mid-first |
| lumberman: |
Anderson is going to stay
with Denver |
| Hagerman: |
You know, though, I
wouldn't be surprised if Atlanta, like MYoung said, to deal and get
Howard. They've got three 2nd rounder and 2 first rounders. What that
gets them, I'm not sure. |
| lumberman: |
Portland should bite on
Diop,MYoung |
| jpopp: |
I would keep Diop, in the
drivers seat with a fairly reasonable qualifying offer. |
| Paul: |
if they can move Ollie or
when they move Ollie, I expect to see them go after a decent 3 |
| MYoung: |
I was thinking Utah or
Boston who have multiple picks |
| ERockRIP: |
That's the word huh. Well
I hope we can fiind someone to complement Boozer. |
| lumberman: |
Portland wants a big
though |
| Hagerman: |
If Biedrins is there at 10,
I would then definitely move Diop for a mid 1st rounder. |
| MYoung: |
They also have backcourt
needs |
| MYoung: |
Both Utah and Boston will
draft at least one big man |
| lumberman: |
They'll probably draft Humphries at #10 |
| MYoung: |
Will Diop next year be
better than anyone Utah or Boston could draft between 16-25? |
| jpopp: |
no telling what happens
with Ilgauskas as a free agent, Diop is a decent insurance policy. |
| Hagerman: |
That guy has skills, but
should have stayed in school to improve his status. |
| lumberman: |
No |
| MYoung: |
16-25 |
| Paul: |
it depends on what you are
looking at |
| ERockRIP: |
I'm leery of undersized
PF's. We have the best one and he's still a liability at times. |
| MYoung: |
I dont think Diop is
insurance at all |
| Paul: |
a team out west could be
interested in Diop |
| lumberman: |
Samardziski is probably
better than Diop now,and he'll go between 15-25 |
| MYoung: |
Diop cant give the
Cavaliers 25%% of what Z gives |
| MYoung: |
Samardziski may pull out
without a lottery guarantee |
| Paul: |
no Z needs to be resigned,
the drop off is huge |
| Hagerman: |
ANother one I am wondering
where he'll fall is Luke Jackson |
| lumberman: |
Probably into the 20s |
| MYoung: |
Jackson is supposedly in
the mix at 10 |
| jpopp: |
Diop could be a starter
for a half dozen teams, which speaks less of his talent than the poor
state of affairs in the post in the NBA. |
| MYoung: |
Maybe, but if Diop is
starting in Cleveland you can forget any playoffs |
| MYoung: |
Then Diop should have some
trade value that isnt part to get another Tony battie |
| jpopp: |
You always need a
contingency plan, and you don't want to be raped by Battie the following
year. |
| lumberman: |
The Cavaliers gave up a #1
in the Haywood pick for Doleac..so I'll never say never.they might get
something for him |
| MYoung: |
like Mihm was |
| MYoung: |
Battie is gone in 2 years |
| Hagerman: |
Doleac, .....what a
horrible memory. |
| MYoung: |
That is why you trade Diop
for a midfirst and draft a center |
| MYoung: |
someone who can actually
convert a post move |
| ERockRIP: |
So back to the draft. You
said the top 3 was pretty much set in a lot of people's eyes. Okafor,
Howard and who? Igoudala? I didn't have a chance to read anything today. |
| lumberman: |
What have you heard of
Samardziski,MYoung? |
| Hagerman: |
I don't know about MYoung,
but I like Livingston to Chicago |
| jpopp: |
I'm not sure I see a
center any better than Diop in the mid first. |
| MYoung: |
Samardziski will pull out
without a lottery guarantee |
| lumberman: |
Okafor,Howard,then Deng |
| Hagerman: |
SOrry, I meant Charlotte |
| lumberman: |
But do you like him? |
| MYoung: |
Not next year but in 3-4
years |
| MYoung: |
I dont know enough about
Samardziski |
| MYoung: |
The Cavaliers themselves
dont believe Diop is a starter |
| lumberman: |
Where's Nelson going? |
| Paul: |
to Cleveland |
| MYoung: |
He may go as high as 13 |
| MYoung: |
lol |
| lumberman: |
Maybe Golden State at #11 |
| MYoung: |
Golden State might go big |
| Paul: |
I don't buy that were
gonna take Nelson |
| lumberman: |
Me either |
| ERockRIP: |
Don't bust on that kid.
He's a winner. |
| Paul: |
he's a good player but I
just don't think we'll pick him |
| lumberman: |
Paxson has to be gun-shy
when it comes to taking small guards,period |
| MYoung: |
I think Nelson can play
but all I see is a backup |
| Hagerman: |
If he gets past GS and
Seattle, then he could go down to Atlanta at 17 |
| ERockRIP: |
I agree. But I think he's
gonna surprise people with a good NBA career. I think he's better than
Stoudemire, who people like to compare him to. |
| lumberman: |
But can he get his shot
off in the NBA..and can he guard anybody? |
| MYoung: |
If you can pressure the
ball there is a palce for you |
| ERockRIP: |
He's a very good defensive
player lumberman. |
| lumberman: |
True.Look at Claxton |
| MYoung: |
Small guys can play but
they usually arent starters |
| jpopp: |
Nelson's lateral quickness
will get him burned in the NBA. |
| MYoung: |
a point nobody mentions |
| MYoung: |
Tyrone Barley got the
tough defensive matchups |
| Hagerman: |
Claxton is much quicker
than Nelson |
| lumberman: |
good point |
| MYoung: |
and St Joe's moved Nelson
off the ball an awful lot |
| lumberman: |
I was comparing their size
more than anything |
| Hagerman: |
West handled the ball
quite a bit as well. |
| lumberman: |
Where does Telfair land? |
| MYoung: |
Early 20s |
| lumberman: |
I'm guessing Boston at #15 |
| ERockRIP: |
Look back at the recent
small PG's who were starters. I agree, there's hardly any. But I see a
little Timmy Hardaway in Nelson. Not as explosive but he knows how to
get his shot off. He's a better player than Wagner. |
| MYoung: |
Unless Paxson is at it
again |
| Hagerman: |
Portland, 23 |
| Paul: |
I think that Telfair will
go early that everyone is expecting |
| MYoung: |
Hardway was a midfirst
wasnt he? |
| lumberman: |
Earlier than 15? |
| MYoung: |
Hardaway* |
| Hagerman: |
Probably will, but only
cause of his marketing |
| Paul: |
possibly l-man |
| MYoung: |
I read the net scouting
reports on Telfair and they blow my mind |
| ERockRIP: |
Hardaway went 14 |
| MYoung: |
Youd think he was Isiah
Thomas |
| Paul: |
how's that MYoung? |
| lumberman: |
I've got a contact who has
seen him alot in New York,and he's not impressed |
| MYoung: |
The scouting reports
making it seem 1. Sliced Bread 2. Telfair |
| Hagerman: |
lol |
| Paul: |
at least he comes after
sliced bread/...last year it was 1. LeBron 2. sliced bread |
| lumberman: |
Good,we'll trade #10 to
the Knicks for the right package,and they can have him |
| MYoung: |
The Knicks dont have
anything lol |
| lumberman: |
true |
| MYoung: |
Tim Thomas lol |
| Paul: |
no 18 year old should ever
play in NY |
| lumberman: |
Allen Houston |
| Hagerman: |
Isaiah, wait he's the GM
or whatever |
| ERockRIP: |
One of the NY papers was
speculating that the Knicks could trade Houston this summer. Too funny |
| Paul: |
I think we could find a
place for him |
| MYoung: |
Houston will get 20M when
he is 35 |
| Paul: |
wow, is his deal really
that much |
| lumberman: |
Yeah,he makes Wally look
attractive |
| MYoung: |
Remember he got 7 years
100M |
| Paul: |
I knew it was alot but
didn't think it was Kobe Shaq money... |
| Hagerman: |
Guys like Houston and
Mashburn, their best days are behind them and they are gonna get paid
like all-stars |
| MYoung: |
Marbury will be getting 20
soon |
| MYoung: |
after his extension |
| lumberman: |
So will Lebron in a few
years.. lol |
| Paul: |
as long as it's Gund
paying the 20 million a year |
| MYoung: |
James will be part owner
before he is through |
| lumberman: |
I think that's why it's so
important for the Cavaliers to draft well now |
| MYoung: |
Exactly |
| Paul: |
heck a couple
championships and he may be full owner |
| lumberman: |
No more Diop picks,or
they're going to be screwed |
| Hagerman: |
I have a weird feeling if
Atlanta can't get Howard then they'll draft Josh Smith - he's from GA
and would be good for marketing - they need to sell tickets bad |
| MYoung: |
If he brings a title here
Cleveland will leave the US be a sovereign nation and declare him King |
| jpopp: |
What kind of talent may be
available in a deal with Charlotte to expose Wagner or Diop? |
| ERockRIP: |
I'll name my firstborn
Lebron |
| MYoung: |
Nothing can sell tickets
in Atlanta sans Michael Vick |
| MYoung: |
The Hawks are a distant
3rd |
| ERockRIP: |
Worst sports town in
America |
| MYoung: |
Atlanta is all about
Georgia football |
| lumberman: |
Atlanta couldn't fill the
stadium for the Braves when they were winning pennants |
| Paul: |
Vick should become a PG |
| Hagerman: |
Vick's arm is sweet -
could send oops to LeBron full court |
| lumberman: |
How does everyone feel
about Podkolzine,I heard he had a great Euro showing |
| MYoung: |
jpopp:, most likely
overpirced veterans |
| Hagerman: |
Ollie hopefully, but most
likely Newble |
| MYoung: |
I dont think teams will be
leaving cheap young talent unprotected |
| Paul: |
neither do I MYoung, |
| MYoung: |
Gerald Wallace might be on
the list but Charlotte would just keep him |
| MYoung: |
mainly you talking about
cap albatrosses |
| Paul: |
Chicago this week should
be fun...Finnan will be here next week to fill us in on it |
| lumberman: |
and castoffs |
| ERockRIP: |
You wonder what Wallace
could do with some more burn. |
| jpopp: |
I would think there is
some less than $5 mil a season players left available. |
| Hagerman: |
Boumtje-Boumtje |
| MYoung: |
yeah, like Elden Campbell,
Jahidi White |
| MYoung: |
Juan Dixon |
| Paul: |
Whtie would be a nice
pickup |
| jpopp: |
Ouch, |
| lumberman: |
Kevin Ollie |
| Paul: |
sorry I was thinking Jamel |
| MYoung: |
lol |
| MYoung: |
Jerome James |
| MYoung: |
Calvin Booth |
| MYoung: |
Eddie Robinson |
| lumberman: |
Did you fall? |
| lumberman: |
jpopp: |
| lumberman: |
lol |
| jpopp: |
Yeah, I must have slipped. |
| ERockRIP: |
So do you guys get the
impression that the Cavs are confident that they can move Ollie? Suppose
we get lucky and draft Harris or Gordon. |
| lumberman: |
Any surprises in the
draft,top 15? |
| MYoung: |
supposedly Paxson told Les
Levine that he felt he could move him |
| Paul: |
ERock, they are confident
they will move him and seem to have it a priority |
| lumberman: |
Paxson is confident he can
move Ollie |
| MYoung: |
Al Jefferson |
| lumberman: |
I'm not so sure |
| ERockRIP: |
That would be nice. |
| lumberman: |
Yeah,I heard about
Jefferson too MYoung |
| Paul: |
Paxson is good at moving
bad contracts and Ollies is more long than bad |
| lumberman: |
Ollie isn't too overpriced. but
with his lack of production, I don't know. |
| MYoung: |
Who's going to drop like
stone? |
| lumberman: |
If I had to take a guess, I'd
say Humphries |
| MYoung: |
I think he goes into the
20s |
| Hagerman: |
I say Humphries also,
maybe even Swift |
| lumberman: |
Johan Petro has
disappeared into the late second round also, maybe all the way out of the
draft |
| Paul: |
I would agree w/ Swift |
